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them at the point they decided to release these pictures? >> the best case scenario for law enforcement is to keep it within law enforcement, make the identification and the arrest before you go public and not complicate it, not get lo lookalikes. there's going to be tens and thousands of phone calls that come in. somebody is going to say it's my ne neighbor. someone is going to call in and say that's my ex-boyfriend. true fact? we don't know. but chris, there is a needle in a haystack and in this case, two needles and i really believe -- i mean, a picture is worth a million words right now. nationally and internationally, there are people picking up the phone, there are people sitting down in front of a computer looking at these guys and saying i think i know one of these guys and we see one guy talking on a phone t appears to be. maybe he's faking it. maybe he's talking on a phone. if he's talking on a phone, the fbi and other agency also grab that signal out of the air at that exact second and we'll know who he was talking to. if we can't find them, let's find somebody they know and
and extremely dangerous. no one should approach them except law enforcement. >> these suspects are at large and dangerous but the fbi says the public can help. >> somebody out there knows these individuals as friends, neighbors, and we are counting on you to provide information to us. no bit of information, no matter how small or seemingly inconsequential is too small for us to see each piece moves us forward. >> these two suspects are out there. the hunt is now on to find them and bring them to justice. joining me now is michael isikoff from nbc news. >> good to be with you. >> you heard the fbi press conference. what is your reaction? what did we learn and what do you take away from it? >> well, we learned a lot and it was a pretty dramatic press conference. first and foremost, we have the pictures. we have video. the public can watch it on their own. these people have been clearly identified as suspects by the fbi. we did not know before this press conference how the fbi was going to categorize -- characterize these people, whether they were just persons of interests, potential witnesses
identify from the facial image who that person is, they would first distribute that image to law enforcement, federal, state, and local and say have you ever seen a picture of anybody that looks like this and see if it gets any hits. that would leak out at some point. it wouldn't be long before they would seek the public's help on who that person is. and then, you know, there's the further question of matching it together with the evidence and there's a wealth of evidence, as i said before, but there's a lot of really hard work that is going in to trying to first reconstruct the bomb and then also trying to piece together where the elements of this bomb were purchased. i'll give you one example, i spoke this afternoon with a company that made that battery pack found among the debris. it was a battery pack that's commonly used to power toy cars and trucks and it's sold in toy stores and in hobby stores. tens of thousands, the company told me, have been sold in just the past year. that's a lot of sales. and it's going to be very difficult to take that battery pack, which they've re
the wrong the senators have done and until we have changed our laws. i am asking every reasonable american to help me tell the truth that the cowardice these senators presented and i'm asking for activists to unsubscribing from the e-mail lists and stop giving them money. i'm asking citizens to go to their offices and say, you have disappointed me and there will be consequences. it goes on from there. tomorrow's "new york times." gabby giffords. now it's time for lawrence o'donnell reporting from boston. have a great night. >>> today the gun lobbyists at the nra got what they wanted on the floor of the united states senate and tonight lobbyists from the nra have made it harder for the fbi to find the murderer who planted the bombs here in boston. >> the investigation into monday's bombing in boston intensifies. >> there's a lot of information flying around right now. >> we've heard conflicting information. >> various media accounts right now as to whether or not someone is in custody. >> a suspect is about to be arre arrested. >> i have just been told that an arrest has been made. >> we ar
to bring in james cavanaugh, nbc news law enforcement analyst and former atf special agent in charge. and with us -- he's with us from nashville. here with me in the studio, robert mcfadden is a former senior ncis official and senior vice president at the suffan group. james, i have to ask you, we've seen so much wild speculation recently. we've seen photos on the cover of the "new york post" that we're not going to show because they turned out to be wrong. how much of that actually ends up harming an investigation by creating sort of false starts? >> well, it is complicated to an investigation, and the commanders, you know, have to wrestle with that in a big media case like this. the even steady reporting is good because it kind of keeps it on the level, just like you saw pete do, it's very pragmatic. so it's difficult to deal with it when you're running a big case like this. for example, the d.c. sniper. we had a lot of issues like that as well. you know, the frenzy to get the story first out. you know, it's not really a necessary -- it's better to get it accurate. this case is mov
considered as a possible hideout? >> well, as you know, chris, they started with a 20-square-block area. law enforcement suggests they've been through about 80% of that. we are looking for a needle in a haystack. and look, we know his brother took a lot of hits in the gunfight with law enforcement last night before he was killed. you might suggest that this 19-year-old man we're looking for, he may have been hit, too. so he could have crawled under a building someplace. he could be barricaded inside of a house somewhere by himself, or holding a hostage, or he may, just may have been able to steal another car and our worst case scenario and get out of town. once law enforcement finishes this search of this 20 square block, then they have to regroup and figure out what cars have been stolen in the area that he might have used to get away from, or did we miss him and do we go back again? and, chris, i know we're going into the weekend, but how long do you keep a city like this bottled up and tell everybody to stay inside? >> well, is there any way of tracking besides basically hard target, i me
, president obama praising law enforcement in trackinging down the suspect, late last night after authorities announced they captured their man, this is what the president had to say. >> boston police and state police and local police across the come mop wealth of massachusetts responded with professionalism and bravery over five long days and tonight, because of their determined efforts, we have closed an important chapter in this tragedy. >> nbc's kristen welker at the white house for us. what's happening at the white house today? >> no events on the president's schedule but i can tell you behind the scenes, i have been told by administration officials, the president will be in contact with his national security team when necessary to monitor the ongoing developments in this investigation. you remember when president obama spoke last night, craig, he said there are a number of questions that need to be anticipated, included what motivated these two young men to take these hape noeinous action and of course did they have accomplices? that is the question everybody wants answered now. i don't
-off from the local community to law enforcement. so we have focused so much on specific ethnic groups since 9/11 in terms of potential threats. maybe we need to open the aperture a little bit. not because the communities pose a threat to the united states but because there are individuals we need to pay attention to. >> when you talk about other groups, not al qaeda but other overseas groups that you might want to investigate. other people in the new york times are saying there might have been other parts to this attack. there is a significant arsenal assembled by these guys. are you comfortable this is a two-person plot or that there may have been some other people we haven't yet seen who are advising or perhaps even funding part of this? >> i think there is no doubt that because of the seven or eight ieds that they've discovered since the capture of tsarnaev, they were planning additional attacks. the question is what were they and what would they be? >> my guess and this is a semieducated guest. we'll find other people who were tangentially involved. unwitting accomplices, providing logi
? >> represented watertown before the redistricting. i will tell you i was home like everyone else. the law enforcement officials ask everyone to stay indoors. i did because i wanted our law enforcement officials to have the ability to focus their full attention on finding and capturing the people that did this. that is obviously what happened. i hadn't heard a single complaint from anybody in boston about what happened. we were asked to cooperate and we did. we are hearing personal stories from people who were injured or from family and relatives and friends. we have learned a little more about some of the victims who lost their life, how close we all are. it is a closely knit city and it should come as no surprise how many people had some relationship to somebody who got hurt or in some cases killed. >> you directly because you know some of the victims' families. krystle campbell who is one of the victims who died went to high school with your kids she was laid to rest yesterday. you know the family of 8-year-old martin richard. have you been able to get in contact with them? have you bee
that? >> my best case scenario, again, if i was in law enforcement at this time, i wouldn't tell anything to the media until i had my whole case put together. you're going to have one chance at this guy. you've got to make the best case you can. as soon as his name or address goes public, you know, the media hoards are going to descend on this whole thing. as an investigator, make your case, then let the media come in. >> what more do you need, you first then jim, than a picture of a guy or person dropping a black bag at the site of a bombing and then splitting? what more evidence would you need to make a case in court than that? >> well -- >> picture of a person. >> that's circumstantial evidence. unless we have a movie of him actually doing it, unless we know that black bag was actually it. you know, there's too many ways as you well know that you can be attacked in court for different reasons, suggesting his hand's really not on the bag and maybe somebody dropped it a second before he walked by. there's a lot to put together from the forensic side other than a picture where he
of all of this, for their part is reporting a law enforcement official briefed on the investigation says a suspect has been taken into custody in the boston bombings. so we are just not comfortable based on our sources at this hour reporting that. so pete williams is correct in saying that this is all over the map right now. the one thing that appears to be clear is that either video or still pictures or a combination of both have led law enforcement officials to, at least, zero in on someone. this just in to us. investigators obtained video of a person placing a black bag down near the scene of the blast. one of the sources confirm the foot offage came from the lord and taylor surveillance camera. this is information we've already reported. video or stills that will give them imagery and give them at least the first road to go down when going down through the streets of boston and looking for who to pick up. various media accounts right now as to whether or not someone is in custody. someone is fully under arrest. we will leave the air now and we will hop back on the air if we learn any
questions put to you by law enforcement agents or by the assistant u.s. attorney, mr. weinreb. the judge then says i want to make it clear you not prohibited from making statements, but if you do, they can be used against you. you are not required to make a statement at this initial appearance, and any statement you do make may be used against you. finally, if i ask you any questions here in this hearing or at any future hearing which you think might incriminate you you have the right not to answer. do you understand everything i have said about the right to remain silent? the defendant nods affirmatively. the judge says you have the right to have this court assign counsel if you cannot afford counsel or if you cannot obtain counsel. can you obtain a lawyer? the defendant says no. and this is the first time we know that he can speak, because he does speak. he says just that one word. and apparently he says it with difficulty, because the judge responds by saying, let the record reflect that i believe the defendant has said no. i have provisionally appointed the federal defender to repres
exception under the miranda allowing law enforcement to interview him, making sure there are no other bombs, threats, perpetrators still out there giving the law enforcement flexibility to do the that prior to miranda and i think the court will interpret it broadly and give them the time they need to make sure that the public is safe. after that, he will have to be mirandized, doesn't mean the end of cooperation, but no basis yet to conclude they should be treated at enemy combatants. we're talking about an american citizen on american soil. there's no evidence that i've seen yet that they were a part of an al qaeda cell or directed by a foreign government. we're very far afield from a situation which is sort of the paradigm for enemy combatant status. that is, someone captured on the balg battlefield in a theater of war. resist these charges as an enemy combatant. the court has proven capable of supporting a terrorist constitution and i'm confident the justice department with all the evidence we've seen and a lot more we haven't can build a very strong case. >> congressman, at this point w
be illegal, anyway, he's an american citizen. the law bars trying american citizens in military tribunals, but you know, i think this is to some extent moot. a, because the administration has decided how they're going to proceed, its going to be in civilian court. and b, the limited nature of the interrogation at this point because of his condition. >> have authorities interviewed katherine russell? tamerlan's wife? we know we've seen her, she's gone back to the cambridge house briefly to apparently get some mail and other things. she is believed to be with her parents in rhode island. are they interviewed her to know how much she knew about his radicalization? >> they will. they very much want to. they want to talk to every member of the family. they want it talk to all his friends. they want to know not just the answer to that question, but fill in as many pieces of the puzzle as they can. what were they up to in the months leading up to the bombing, what did they do afterwards, did they talk about plans? were they in touch with other people? the quick answer to your question is we don'
through our civilian system of justice. under u.s. law the united states citizens can not be tried in military commissions. and it is important to remember that since 9/11, we have used the federal court system to convict and incarcerate hundreds of terrorists. >> tsarnaev now lies under armed guard unable to speak due to what may be a self-inflicted gunshot wound in his neck. authorities continue to question him, relying on written answers at this point. but his answers may be somewhat less important in his prosecution given the volume of evidence in the federal complaint, including description of video after the first explosion. "bomber two virtually alone among the individuals in front of the restaurant appears calm. he glances to the east and then calmly, but rapidly, begins moving to the west. away from the direction of the finish line. he walks away without his knapsack. having left it on the ground where he'd been standing. approximately ten seconds later, an explosion occurs." the complaint also contains details from the carjacking victim who says one of the suspects said t
as an enemy combatant. we will prosecute this terrorist under u.s. law. united states citizens cannot be tried in military commissions. this is absolutely the right way to go and the appropriate way to go. and when it comes to united states citizens, it is against the law to try them in military commissions. >> and it matters that the white house is treating the idea of holding an american citizen outside of the american legal system as what it is, which is crazy and unacceptable. and it matters that appears to be where americans stand on the issue too. when asked just last week in the midst of the aftermath of the boston bombing, with the images and videos of the horror there, the top of everyone's mind, which worries you more, the government will not go far enough to investigate terrorism because of concerns about constitutional rights, or that it will go too far in compromising constitutional rights in order to investigate terrorism. more people answered they are more worried about the government going too far. today is the first day of a big, important test for us as a country. a test of w
to the bombing in boston. meanwhile, law enforcement officials in massachusetts are combing through more than 2,000 tips, looking through photos like this one, shall shows a bag sitting by a mailbox before the explosion. it is unclear at this point whether or not the bag has any relevance, but appears to be near the center of the explosion. president obama will be in boston tomorrow to attend a memorial service for the victims. for the loved once of those killed and maimed in the explosion, there is only confusion and many unanswered questions. joining me today here in new york city, nbc news capitol hill correspondent luke russert, and misterrorism expert michael leiter, and bob herbert, a distinguished senior fellow at dimos. >>> let's go to kristin welker for more. >> reporter: alex, good afternoon. here's what we know at this hour. this letter was received yesterday at an off-site mail facility. i want to emphasize that. it did not get close to the white house. it's typical for letters sent to this facility to undergo a screening. during that process, it was discovered that a letter address
jersey governor chris christie wants to make some of the toughest state gun laws in the country even tougher. >>> good morning from fenway park! it's monday, april 22nd, 2013! now here's "the daily rundown" with chuck todd! boston strong! woo! >> what a great way to begin what hopefully is a better week for everybody thanks to the baby giraffes, an improv group from boston. those good morning videos, you could be tomorrow's winner. let's get to my first reads of the morning. let's run through everything we've learned since friday night's arrest. federal prosecutors may file terrorism charges today against dzhokhar tsarnaev, the 19-year-old man accused of the boston marathon bombings. tsarnaev is under guard in serious but stable condition at a boston hospital with a gunshot wound to the neck. some investigators believe that wound may be the result of a suicide attempt before his arrest. he's now being questioned, but only for brief periods because of his medical condition and is responding mostly in writing because of the injury. investigators have been trying to piece together the e
, law enforcement officials searched an apartment in northern boston massachusetts, police could be seen removing things from the residence, but nothing of interest was found. the home belonged to a 20-year-old man here on a student visa who sustained burns and was seen running from the blast. a senior law enforcement cautioned nbc news that the man is not a suspect and the interest in him is fading. >>> internet chatter has been ruled out. one terrorist group, the pakistani taliban, behind the failed times square bombing of 2010 have told police it is not responsible. and police are on the lookout for a man seen leaving the scene in a dark piece of clothing and a rental truck scene attempting to entry the area near the finish line. msnbc contributor joy reid and joining us from washington is nbc news justice department correspondent pete williams. pete, i'd like to go to you first, given what the president just said coming out and saying it is an act of terror does not come as much of a surprise, given the contours of this. but still something worth remarking on in terms of how the whit
. but as the colonel said, because of that extraordinary collaboration and cooperation by all of these law enforcement resources and assets and more to the point people, professionals, who brought their "a" game, we have a suspect in custody tonight. >> the community stood strong. it was a call from a resident in watertown. we asked you to remain vigilant, and you did. we got that call and we got the guy. and so we can't thank you enough. you've done everything and more than we've asked. extremely proud of law enforcement today and what we've accomplished. >> this whole ordeal started monday with the bombing attack at the finish line of the boston marathon. three people were killed, more than 170 injured. the suspect's older brother died early friday morning following a shootout with police. the two men are also suspected of killing an m.i.t. police officer, 26-year-old sean collier, who was sitting in his patrol car. now, police hope that the surviving suspect will be able to give them some critical information about a possible motive and whether any more people were involved. nbc's katy tur has been
. evidence was taken from that apartment. we saw law enforcement agents leaving with bags, gym bags and trash bags but the important thing to point out, robert -- and it was just made clear by boston police commissioner davis that there are no -- there's nobody in custody. there's no suspects right now who the fbi has. so, this is -- remains a wide open investigation. you heard the pleas for photographs and videos of the public. that's pretty telling in and of itself that the investigators still need more evidence. i did talk a little while ago to a former top federal bomb expert who had some pretty interesting things to say about where this is going. this was a very powerful blast. two bombs went off very quickly within ten seconds and that suggests that there could have been more than one perpetrator here. >> michael, reporting on the scene and chris jansing, my thanks to both of you and bringing in now on the telephone is former massachusetts congressman barney frank. sir, it's good to have you with us this morning. i want to get you first, though, where were you when you first heard about
the dead and possibly one law enforcement officer is missing. and our affiliate in houston kprc is reporting that the mobile morgue has been dispatched to west. that's an indication they intend find more bodies in the rubble. >> i know this is being treated as a crime scene. is that just out of an assumption of taking precaution here that it could be or do they know something? >> reporter: it's the world we live in, chuck. they are going to try to rule out the crime right away and focus on what they really believe it is and that's an industrial accident. and it's an industrial accident that sadly has been a part of texas history. back in 1947, in texas city, texas, two ships loaded with ammonia nitrate, same product here exploded killing thousands of people. it's the worst industrial accident in all of the united states. >> what about the first responders in west, texas? did they have the ability to deal with a disaster like this? experience and training? there have been some questions about that this morning. >> reporter: they have what they call mutual aid here. when the fire
law enforcement investigation to try to get to the point where you can identify who's the culprit of this. >> don, there are thousands of people working on this and several agencies at the federal, state, and city level. i just want to run through some of the names. the fbi, the doj, the dod, the atf, homeland security, home security task force, the national guard, the massachusetts state police, the boston p.d. and the boston bay transportation authority police. alphabet soup of people working together. obviously there are advantages when you have lots of organizations working and surely there are challenges when you have lots of organizations working together. does one agency typically take charge, typically the fbi or dod and how do the ajegencies work differently. ? >> think part of the new world, all the organizations get together and depending on the type of crime or type of tragedy that's taken place, one agency takes the lead on this. in this case it appears to be the fbi. but we've learned through investigation and think the law enforcement has really worked on this is to
're going to get into the law of this case. dzhokhar tsarnaev was formally charged today. he'll be prosecuted through the criminal justice system despite republicans who say he should be treated as an enemy combatant. >>> later, the russian connection. we have new details about the older brother, tamerlan, and his six-month trip overseas to russia, that area, as he became increasingly more devout in his religion and radicalism. >>> here in washington, the marathon bombings have already started to change the debate on things like -- you knew this was coming -- immigration. >>> finally, life started to return to normal this weekend in boston. i was up there as the slow healing begins. this is "hardball." as we say up there, "hardball." the place for politics. [ male announcer ] you are a business pro. governor of getting it done. you know how to dance... with a deadline. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle... and go. you can even take a full-size or above, and still pay the mid-size price. this is awesome. [ male announcer ]
penalty, is that what you're saying? >> reporter: sure. because then he's got cooperating with law enforcement, but he's also lost his leverage by saying this. it is in his interest to be able to tell them something. >> you think a lawyer, michael, would have told him to hold out until he got a deal? >> reporter: absolutely. absolutely. the one thing a lawyer is going to try to do at this point is to save his life. the one way to do that is show cooperation by pointing the finger at somebody else or helping them find somebody else. look, i don't take these statements at face value, just, you know, just to be clear. you know, he could well be protecting somebody. clearly there were others who they were talking to. it's hard to imagine the two of them just simply became radicalized by themselves without any encouragement from anybody else. >> that surprises me, too. >> reporter: seems there was an accomplice in the plot. and also, we have the statements from the uncle who says there was somebody who radicalized the older brother. >> so let me thank you very much. >> reporter: that's
, that nbc news has learned has been distributed to law enforcement agencies. apparently that video, taken on the official cameras. the surveillance cameras, a local department store. show a man acting suspiciously and dropping a bag in the same area as the second bomb. this is the same place where the local tv station, whdh, had the photographs. one showing what seemed to be almost a garbage bag or grocery store bag. and afterwards, the explosion that went off. there is a manhunt on right now to identify that person in the video. we are told that the company that manufactured is cooperating. they will try to trace where it might have been sold. everything down to the wires that were used. many of them commonly available. less common may be the circuit board that investigators believe they have been used as a timing device. so, all of that is being investigated, trying to be traced, every, single component part. while investigators are still on the scene, even though it has -- they are going over every inch. i wanted to update you quickly, in local hospitals, at least 14 people still in cr
them legally but only reason we say that is because massachusetts has very strict gun laws and in order to possess a gun you have to be licensed for it and there's no record according to the authorities that the older brother, who i think would be the only one who would qualify to have a gun license actually had one. so they seem to be in possession of them illegally but where they got them, how they got them, this is an important question and we're waiting to find that out and they are checking that out as well. >> in your reporting you also had the opportunity to e-mail with the man that police say was carjacked by the brothers. what is this person saying and did the conversation reveal any new light about the suspect's state of mind just hours before this manhunt came to an end? >> i asked him several questions and he chose to answer only one which was to sort out these conflicting details about whether they let him go or he escaped. he said i escaped. he described them as cautious but brutal. separately in a police investigation, he's the one who called 911 as soon as they let him o
of the law enforcement should be combhited to their efforts. >> court documents contain new details about thursday night's carjacking. the fbi show tamerlan and dzhokhar tsarnaev in cambridge at a gas station where they drove with the owner of the suv they carjacked. one began the carjacking by pointing a gun at the driver and saying, "did you hear about the boston explosion? i did get" the carjacker showed the driver he had bullets in his gun according to fbi and said, "i'm serious." at the shooting in watertown where tamerlan was killed, other explosives were found. a boston police commissioner says that's one reason he thinks the brothers planned other attacks. >> we got to step over some unexploded devices that they threw at the officers and i can only understand from that that they had other targets. they were going other places. >> that's nbc news' pete williams reporting. >>> well, today members of the house will get a top secret briefing on the boston bombings. meanwhile, the head of the senate intelligence committee is demanding the fbi explain why more wasn't done to investigate
a primary vote. >> senator manchin called every nra talking point hogwash, laws. he was very strong. yet the hogwash and lies seem to be working. >> seem to be working because they always work. h is what the nra does. we knew this after newtown when, you know, all the energy bubbled up. folks were calling for an assault weapons ban and background checks and straw purchases and bills on trafficking, that the nra would somehow find a way to keep this from happening. the nra has been around a long time. the energy and passion we saw from december 14th has to continue. what happens today, what's happening in the senate right now, shouldn't be something that deters those newtown families and all those other families in cities across the country from pushing to get something done. this is a long haul process. this is not something that turns on, you know, one failed vote. >> isn't there a risk? one of the things that strikes me, we're talking about a vote on a watered down bill. progressives and people supporting the legislation have even said, is it really what we want? no. is it the best we
dead after a dramatic shootout with law enforcement early friday morning. his 19-year-old dzhokhar escaped on foot precipitating a shelter in place order for the entire boston area. but the much sought after armed and dangerous teen was found wounded and incoherent in a boat parked in the backyard of a suburban watertown home. discovered not by the hundreds of armed officers who had been searching for him for hours but by the home's owner, reportedly out for a smoke. with one assailant dead and the other in police custody, the people of watertown and the entire boston area expressed their enormous gratitude and sense of relief with spontaneous cheers and applause on friday night. the crisis is over. now the politics begin and this is where our responsibility in the media shifts. in the heat of the crisis, media take on the job of informational clearinghouse, keeping the public up to date, sharing critical information and get the information out right and fast. granted, those are goals that can contradict at times. now we must step back from the incessant drumbeat of breaking news t
today to praise law enforcement and those involved in tracking tsarnaev down. >> americans refused to be terrorized. ultimately, that's what we'll remember from this week. that's what will remain, the stories of heroism and kindness, resolve and resilience, generosity, and love. >> authorities caught up with the suspect after a tip from a watertown resident. he was hiding in a boat parked outside a home. he is now in a boston hospital and nbc's ron allen is joining me from there. ron, with a good afternoon to you, let's get the very latest on his condition. are you getting word from the hospital or are they staying somewhat silent on that? >> reporter: absolutely silent, alex. they're basically saying ask the fbi, ask the police about that, and they are saying nothing as well. it's a very tight lid on top of any information about him so far today. that could change perhaps, but you have to understand and, of course, you do, that this is a very, very delicate and sensitive situation and so it seems unlikely that the doctors are going to tell us a lot about what his condition is, par
is the federal law version of what a bomb is, if death results, then that is a capital offense. the government could seek the death penalty. massachusetts is a state that does not have the death penalty. so the only death-eligible charge here would be the federal offense, even though four people were killed, the government alleges, the three victims of the. bog and the campus policeman. >> okay. in terms of the investigation, where does that stand now? what are the most prom neinent angles that are being pursued? >> these main questions are really the ones that have been true ever since the discovery of who these two people were. and the directions that they're headed in are really going to be the same here for weeks. so the investigation is not going to be, you know, taking sudden turns. the main questions are how and where did they assemble the components of the bomb. how did they buy them? where did they build them? were there any practices? secondly, what happened when the brother, tamerlan, the older brother who was shot to death thursday night, what happened when he went to russia last y
continue to mobilize and deploy all appropriate law enforcement resources to protect our citizens and investigate and to respond to this attack. obviously, our first thoughts this morning are with the victims, their families, and the city of boston. we know that two explosions gravely wounded dozens of americans and took the lives of others including, an 8-year-old boy. this was a heinous and cowardly act and given what we now know about what took place, the fbi is investigating it as an act of terrorism. any time bombs are used to target innocent civilians, it is an act of terror. what we don't yet know, however, is who carried out this attack or why. whether it was planned and executed by a terrorist organization, foreign or domestic, or was the act of a malevolent individual. that's what we don't yet know. and clearly we're at the beginning of our investigation. it will take time to follow every lead and determine what happened. but we will find out. we will find whoever harmed our citizens and we will bring them to justice point we also know this. the american people refuse to
to the perpetrators, we are learning more about just how the explosives were made. law enforcement officials familiar with the case say they appear to have consisted of an explosive and shrapnel backed inside a pressure cooker, probably triggered by some kind of timer. if that is the case, we have seen this before. one of the three devices used in the 2010 attack in times square incorporated a pressure cooker containing approximately 120 fire crackers. a soldier, nazir abdul, convicted last year of plotting an attack at ft. hood, texas, was using a bomb-making recipe from an al qaeda-linked online magazine that used a pressure cooker. in july of 2006, more than 130 died in a series of attacks on the mumbai transit system with pressure cooker explosives placed on the trains. the department of homeland security has warned of the potential terrorist use of pressure cookers saying "as a common cooking utensil, the pressure cooker is often overlooked when searching vehicles, residences, or merchandise crossing the u.s. borders." now, of course, there's still much more that authorities want to know about t
, methodical, careful and professional investigation. we've got every imaginable law enforcement agency at the federal, state, and local level. they are working very, very well together under the leadership of the fbi. it is going to take time. it's a several block crime scene and it's being combed sort of a quarter inch by quarter inch. it's going to be a slow investigation but i think as every hour and day passes, they make progress. >> what do you think is the attitude? you would know it as well as anyone up there, the attitude of the boston people and the massachusetts people about this? do they just feel that they are victims, something bad happened? or is there a sense of anger, if you will, that somebody would do this or a group of would do this? >> well, i think it's a mixture of all of that and more. i think certainly people are shocked, shaken in many, many cases shattered that something like this could happen at a civic ritual like the marathon of which we are so proud and on patriots day, there's frustration that the perpetrators haven't been found but i think people should
a portion of military law. it's not enough, but it's a good start. >> congresswoman, are you finding that the pentagon under chuck hagel, i know he hasn't been in office very long, he had a rocky confirmation process, do you have their attention? and are they responsive to your requests? >> they absolutely are. i don't think it could have gone anywhere near far enough. they say we have a zero tolerance policy and there's nothing like a zero tolerance policy going on out there. about you have increasing members of congress who are actively engaged in this conversation. recently a group of us were over at the pentagon meeting with the vice chiefs of staff at all levels, they are saying we're trying to change the culture. we're trying to change the training, we're trying to change our ability to talk about this. and part of what they need to do is change the number of prosecutions and laws. as anu said and you've heard, the military code of justice does not exactly follow civilian law. and there are reasons it's different. but civilian law was updated a long time ago with respect to how
significantly more complex. american law enforcement officials currently track terror networks by tapping into chatter, monitoring videos and reports of field agents, but even if the fbi is tipped off to potential american terrorists, there's are limits to what can be done. "the new york times" reports that after the tib questioned tamerlan tsarnaev in 2011, officials had quote no authority to watch him because they found no terrorism activity at the time. this scenario that an american could and would do this while flying under the radar raises serious questions regarding national security. the "washington post" writes the boston attacks might serve as a new model for terrorism in the 21st century. seeing how two kids with backpack bombs seem to have succeeded in putting a major u.s. city on lockdown, it may now dawn on al qaeda leaders that a series of small-scale attacks like this conversation the same impact as one spectacular mass casualty attack. through a combination of skill and luck, we've done well at preventing the next 9/11. preventing the next boston massacre might not be as
. >> if people are coming from countries where, perhaps, they grew up under sharia law, i think we can make a safe assumption they have been radicalized. >> lindsey graham was on some show this week saying this shows how we need better tracking. i'm thinking this shows how we need better immigrants. >> how do we give asylum to people from islamic countries, or islamic territories? i would submit people shouldn't be coming here as tourists from check kn chechnya after 9/11. dagestan, chechnya, kyrgyzstan, uh-huh. as george bush would say, none of them stands. >> let me get this right, krystal. asylum is not based on those that may be in desire of leaving countries that we think their policies are no good. asylum is based on who you are. have you ever heard anything more biased and -- and in many ways profiling people just based on their nationality? i mean, it's the exact anti-thesis to what asylum is. >> it's the exact antithesis of everything this country stands for. judging people. not allowing them into this country because of their religion is unbelievable. i would love to know how many
was used as the delivery device for the explosives. law enforcement sources tell nbc news that the bombs were built to act like homemade ieds. and take a look at what remains of the black duffle back used to conceal the device. sources tell nbc news the bombs appeared to include a battery pack and the "boston globe" reporting investigators recovered part of a circuit board at the scene. the bombs were also packed with shrapnel to maximize damage and a black powder known as low explosive. in other words, the device was not capable of creating a massive blast wave, instead, the main purpose was simply to maim and to injure fans at the event. photos obtained by whdh in boston showed the area where the bomb was left moments before and moments after the detonation. the fbi is looking at these photos and others like them for clues as to who placed the bombs and when they may have placed them. there is precedent for devices like these. in 2004, the fbi sent out a memo on the use of homemade pressure cooker bombs. al qaeda's online magazine gave instructions for making them just last month. and
at m.i.t. let's talk about law enforcement. what are they looking for now? how do they go about this investigation? take us through some of those steps? and within that, we have to start forming some theories. from what we know already, do you think that it is maybe an individual or probably a group and how do you go about figuring out, is this a foreign group or individual, or americans? >> yeah. those are big questions and there are a lot of them. let me start in the beginning and say in terms of the phase of the investigation, i think there are different parts and different parts of the government are handling different parts of the investigation. so obviously, the most important and immediate thing are those events and evidence that are near the attack. that are approximate to the attack. that includes the crime scene. that includes the material used in the bomb and the process of reconstructing what that bomb looked like. it is designed, the materials it used. the nature of the timer that was used. then there is a whole separate line of inquiry at surveillance video that mi
suspect is read his rights and lawmakers raise new questions about what law enforcement knew about him and his brother prior to last week's deadly attack. >>> food for thought. president obama's slaft dinner dates continues tonight. this time it is with the women of the senate. how much could these meals be the ticket to some deals? no evidence yet. >>> a bonanza of second chance surprises. mark sanford blazing a trail, trying to make old faces new again. but can any of these folks actually get elected again? >>> good morning from washington. i'm chuck todd. this is your tuesday edition of "the daily rundown." it is april 23rd. right to my first reads of the morning. >>> 19-year-old dzhokhar tsarnaev who was shot in the head, neck, leg and hands according to newly released documents, has been officially charged with using a weapon of mass destruction that resulted in three deaths and more than 170 injuries. he's also been charged with malicious destruction of property by means of an explosive device resulting in death. both charges carry the death penalty as a maximum sentence. tsarnae
. that's going to be going on all night. so we have a command post set up for law enforcement. we have a command post set up for the emergency units also. and we still have a triage center set up at the community center right up here across the interstate from us. >> what's the status of the plant right now? >> it's still smoldering. right now they did not give us any update on it. but it was smoldering and there still is active other ingredients there on the facility. so we don't want that to explode again. but right now we can't get firefighters in there. we're worried about people right now, not property. we want people to be safe. that's our main goal right now is getting the people safe and getting them out of there. >> do you have a rough number on how many lives may have been lost? >> i do not know right now. it's going to be -- it's going to be a number. you know, i can't give you a number right now, but there is going to be a number out there. hopefully at 6:00 a.m. we'll know that. >> early estimates are 50 to 60, 70 maybe? >> i cannot confirm or deny that. i wish i could tel
are effectually going to reflect the view of the american public in the laws that we pass. >> for what it's worth, that 60-vote threshold created was because both sides wanted the 60-vote threshold because of gun control advocates who wanted 60 votes for that to carry. that was a mutual decision. behind the bombs as we learn more about the type of explosion use and how they were made to provide the clues needed to figure out who was behind this deadly attack. a done deal after months of negotiations, a group of senators coming through with a bill. the senator on what's in the bill and why he said it's something for everybody to hate. but first a look ahead at the politics planner. as you know about all the votes, president obama dines with democrats after two dinners with senate republicans doing a little on the senate democrat dining there. a lot of the budget talks in the party are going to be there. the sanford push debate. we will have more on that. only on msnbc. p with this horrie rash on my right side. an intense burning sensation like somebody had set it on fire. and the doctor said, cind
this -- i know this because there's a piece of boston in me. you welcomed me as a young law student across the river. you welcomed michelle, too. you welcomed me -- welcomed me during a convention when i was still a state senator and very few people could pronounce my name right. like you, michelle and i have walked these streets. like you, we know these neighborhoods. like you, in this moment of grief, we join you in saying boston, you're my home. for millions of us, what happened on monday is personal. it's personal. today our prayers are with the campbell family of medford. they're here today. their daughter crystal was always smiling. those who knew her said with her red hair and freckles and her ever-eager willingness to speak her mind, she was beautiful, sometimes she would be a little noisy. and everybody loved her for it. she would have turned 30 next month. as her mother said, through her tears, this doesn't make any sense. our prayers are with the liu family of china, who sent their daughter to b.u. so she could experience all this city has to offer. she was a 23-year-old student
don't know all of the information that the law enforcement who, by the way, have done such a great job of putting this whole thing together, all of them, and i'd like to applaud them. nonetheless, that all is taking place and, yes, it was a planned attack. this wasn't anything by happenstance. you look at what we know now about some of the weapons and some of the activities that these people have -- and we still don't know yet -- it hasn't come out to us yet what training that they had and where they may have gotten that training and to whom may have trained them. i think they have truly done a good job of bringing it to the attention. >> "the new york times" found an m-4 assault rifle on the boat where the young suspect was hiding. i mean, where does a teenager get a weapon like that? >> reverend al, he may have gotten it at a robbery. it seems to be unknown whether they were taken at a robbery or purchased in a back alley. it will be interesting to see how they acquired them. your question also about the explosives is very interesting but the thing that sticks out to me about the bom
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